Yesterday I appeared along with Jeff Hawkins on a Portland radio show called Mad as Hell in America. Producer Jesse Singer hosted the show and he invited us on for a full two hours to talk about Scientology. I was on the phone and Jeff was in studio. We covered a lot of ground. There’s never enough time but between us we talked about such things as the Scientology mindset, recruitment and progress up the Bridge, the use of celebrities, control mechanisms in the group and the abusive nature of David Miscavige. In case you missed it, here it is in two parts:
[audio:http://xenutv.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/3-10-12-Hour1.mp3|titles=Mad as Hell in America – Hour 1]
[audio:http://xenutv.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/3.10.12.Hour2_1.mp3|titles=Mad as Hell in America – Hour 2]
A few days earlier, another radio host had the chance to talk with Marty Rathbun. Rather than shedding light onto some of the problems in the Church of Scientology, the host (Peter Boyles) decided to let the conversation degenerate into mockery of Rathbun, derailing whatever conversation they might have had. I know I will take some flack for this but I’m siding with Marty on this one. While I agree Marty wasn’t being forthright about the upper level materials, there were greater points which could have been made without just mocking him and driving him off the show. Anons have been taking delight over at Why We Protest but I think it’s better to keep talking and shed light than just get the heat of a confrontation. That said, I would welcome the chance to debate any Scientologist on any show and point out when they are less than open or blatantly lying. It seldom happens but when I get the chance it is fun.
[audio:http://xenutv.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Peter-Boyle-Interviews-Marty-Rathbun.mp3|titles=Peter Boyles Interviews Marty Rathbun]